“The council of Constance (1414-1418) ended the schism. The three popes were all deposed. The famous eighteenth century historian Edward Gibbon described the case against one of them, John XXIII: ‘The most scandalous charges were suppressed; the vicar of Christ was only accused of piracy, murder, rape, sodomy and incest;…’”
— H.G. Koeningsberger,
Medieval Europe 400-1500, page 326.

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Oh, well, if THAT was all.
11. November 2007 @ 04:43 ( Permalink )
The fun thing is that if I’ve learned anything at all about Medieval politics, I’d hazard a guess that most of these charges were false, and that the ones they suppressed — the ones seen as the most grievous — were crimes like heresy and the like. I.e. things we hardly see as crimes at all, but were viewed quite differently in the 15th century.
Still a fun quote, though.
11. November 2007 @ 05:10 ( Permalink )
The latter three I suppose can be somewhat off, but even without knowing anything of this guy, I severely doubt any efficient pope in the fourteenhundreds would be completely uninvolved in arranging any form of murder or piracy…
Also, of COURSE heresy is the most grievous crime a pope can commit - he’s the POPE.
11. November 2007 @ 23:10 ( Permalink )
“I severely doubt any efficient pope in the fourteenhundreds would be completely uninvolved in arranging any form of murder or piracy…”
Especially an Avignon Pope, which I for some reason am convinced this guy was. Must be “The Name of the Rose”, as I seem to remember the Avignon Pope there being named John something. Sure, that was set about a hundred years earlier, but Popes liked to choose names their idol Popes had used before them.
Also, this “especially and Avignon Pope” thing is completely and utterly irrational: I doubt it mattered much, at this point, where they spent their days, and as such my earlier comment is nothing but an expression of a prejudice.
“Also, of COURSE heresy is the most grievous crime a pope can commit - he’s the POPE.”
Yep. I just felt like stating the obvious.
12. November 2007 @ 02:03 ( Permalink )
Well, not so obvious with regards to the rest of the general population, I guess. I mean, most people aren’t the Pope. (What’s up with that, anyway?! Equality now! Papacies for everyone!)
12. November 2007 @ 04:41 ( Permalink )